Turaga Na Gonesau

Anybody know the origin of the Gonesau from Nakorotubu Ra and who are the original owner

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Permalink Reply by billy chunky on March 7, 2010 at 1:41pm: LOLZ; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Kingdom citizen on February 4, 2010 at 5:17am: Vinaka vakalevu Miriani for your piece of the puzzle as it was the closest information to the Gonesau family. The following is the story that has been handed down from generation to generation and this is endorsed by my younger brothers at Navatunimaravu (noqu yavu) in Nabukadra. @ Maxter --> For the record Lutunasobasoba is the great forefather of the Gonesau and saying that he has got nothing to do with us is disrespectful and insults my people and even your young generation. HE DID NOT FALL FROM A SOBA NI JAINA!! Before Lutunasobasoba passed away he warned Rokomautu (the eldest of his 5 children - Ro Malasiga, Bui Savulu, (the name of the child in Batiki escapes me at this moment) and Daunisai) me kakua ni dede i Nakauvadara baleti Degei ka ni na sega ni kilai kina na nodra i tutu vakaturaga. Biuti Nakauvadra ka ra vakamuria cake mai na baravi kei na Korotubu ka ra a sotava kina e dua na marama ka qoqoli voli. A mani kerekere na marama me vakacegu mada o Ratu ka me qai tomani na nodra i lakolako ni ira sa vakacegu oti. Suruta na vusi na kerekere oya ka dabeca kina na nodra i tini yara na marama qo ka qai kune kina na sau nei Rokomautu ni ra sa yaco e Verata. Ka qai kau nai tukutuku vei ira ni sa bukete na marama ni na Korotubu. Sa lewa nei Ratu me biu i wai na ravouvou (dra tabu/sau) me ra susugi koya na ika. Ka me laurai kina na kaukauwa kei na sau ka sa tiko vua na ravouvou oqo...ko Manamanaivalu. Ka sai koya oqo na noqu Vu ka'u basika kina o au na Qase kau tiko kei Ratu i Verata e daidai.
In 1970 we (the elder of the Gonesau family) went back to Nabukadra (CARASALA) to revisit our younger brothers. The title of the Gonesau was temporarily held by the late Ratu Mara Kapaiwai (Dewala). It was during this visit that he pleaded with us (his tavale') to take our birthright (Turaga Na Gonesau) back as he insisted was not his title to hold in the first place. Despite what you may have learnt the title of Gonesau cannot be and was NOT given by any Ratu in Fiji but was inherited.

The topic of the Gonesau is a sensitive issue for several reasons:

1. The Turaga Na Gonesau title is not to be taken lightly as it has been misrepresented since the 1959 endorsement
2. There are current issues with royalties that involves the Native Land Title Trust

So to answer your concerns about the sensitive nature of the Gonesau family the above issues are just a few to name. Your interest in my family has been noted and I appreciate your research efforts to ascertain the truth. I agree that more light needs to be shed on this topic and I pray that your constructive contribution, mutual understanding and respect will be the core platform of our general discussion. May God bless you all.; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by maxter on March 1, 2010 at 12:47pm: Thank you for your enlightenment well i just want to inform you that the house of Vatunimaravu e Nabukadra they are the one who are not the owners of the tittle o ira na Mataqali Burelevu and have nothing to do with the Gonesau era vakarorogo vua na Gonesau. You are right the Gonesau was inherited and you wonder why it hasn't anyone been able to be installed because there has been claims by people who claims themselves to be owners of the tittle but actually are not. A lot have died in Nakorotubu for trying to claim the tittle. You want to know why i put this Discussion on the Board because there has been a lot of stories about the gonesau and i just wanted to hear their views and claims and know how well informed they are about the gonesau. I am a direct descendant of the Gonesau from Nakorotubu my elders were the one who took back the tittle after the death of Dr. Malani and even though i was just young and naive i saw that not one rejected or opposed the words said after my elders took back the tittle this was in front of all the chiefs in Fiji present in the funeral i then took interest in researching into my family history then my elders put together the history of the Gonesau this was either done by evidence on paper the veitarogi vanua from the 1880's and past history handed by mouth from my generations and research files from England concerning the Gonesau.It took them 4 years to build the history paper which was read and approved correct by the NLC and approved and no one objected right up to the current president when they presented it. But i dont know why but there was nothing about verata and Lutunasobasoba mentioned in the history and during the years of research i get so frustrated with my elders for the many years they have kept quite about this and the only advice they tell me is "Na levu na ve auria nai tutu ni gonesau, e vinaka mo kua ni kila nomu i tutu de o qai viavia levu" i have the history research paper right now with me so if you wanna know more about it i you can have a soft copy and if you have a copy of your history about the gonesau from verata you might wanna share it its up to you maybe there might be two Gonesau after all you never know.; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by billy chunky on March 7, 2010 at 1:50pm: isa vinaka vakalevu...can i have a copy of your history reseach paper sir..email: chunky_billy@yahoo.com..vinakavakalevu tale.; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Taraivosa Bernadette Naisua on June 10, 2010 at 7:14am: Please refer to the Editorial Comment Fiji Times on the 50th anniversary of the installation of the Vunivalu of Bau. The title of Gonesau was given to the Malani family by the Nakorotubu clan, the descendants of Kalawailagi because the Malani family are older than the Cakobau family but have resided in Kavula, Nabukadra. Click on for the online Fiji Times Editorial Comment September 19th 2009 for the details of the installation ceremony in Bau and how Roko Malani (descendant of Raivalita) escorted Ratu Sir George Cakobau (descendant of Nadurucoko 2) to the installation pavilion ...Malani Family Migratory History Route is from Nakauvadra, Verata, Navakawaluwalu, then Bau then Kavula.Different families in Nakorotubu have different migratory history routes.
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Permalink Reply by maxter on March 2, 2010 at 8:01pm: Ratu Mara Kapawai died in the late 1960's; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by EPI KOLINIVALA on June 9, 2010 at 7:54am

Drau yadra vinaka, qo dina nai vaka macala me vaka dodonutaka na nomuni tukutuku, na cala ni veibuli kei na vei soli ni Gonesau koya e caka tiko mai Nabukadra, sa ra yali kece ni kua , sa lala na mua ni koro mai Nabukadra koya e dodonu me neitou tiko na yavusa dina o Nakorotubu, se na kawa ne Vakasenuku na luvei Ratu KALAWAILAGI na Tui Nakorotubu okoya na VUNISAU. eratou mai soli ga na bilo na qase dina ni Nakorotubu vei Meli Salabogi baleta ni lai kerei iratou yani e na bogi me gunuva na bilo e na siga ni veibuli, baleta ni ratou cobo vata kecega e na gauna ni veitarogi vanua na via via gonesau, sa qai tukuni vei ira me raotu lai vaqara tale mai nai rabe ni medratou yaqona, na veidinadinati e yaco me oti ga o Meli Salabogi, ke qai lai vaka luveni tagane me gunu talega, ia ke sa mani lai vaka luveni tagane tale na luvena ,me sa suka tale mai na bilo e Nakorotubu, ia sa mai seva ni sa mai yaco na koco i tutu kei na vei vaka calai levu, gunu oti o Meli Salabogi , soli tale na bilo vei na luvena sai, MARA Kapawai, ka e qai yaco, mani mai vakawati tale vua e dua ga na marama ni loma ni vale e Nakorotubu, na vei dinadinati e caka , me oti ga okoya me sa suka tale mai na bilo. sa mai caka tiko qo na viavia gonesau , ka sa guilecavi na VUNISAU sai koya o Ratu Kalawailagi ka solia na sau vei luvena e gone sara sai VAKASENUKA, kena kawa ni qase e ratou tiko mai Namarai kei na kawa ni gone e ratou tiko mai Nabukadra kei Verevere, E matata vinak tu vei keimami na kai ULUINAKOROTUBU na i tukutuku kece oqo. ka tiko kece vei keimami na kena kawa ni liga ni veibuli me dua tale na VUNISAU se Tui Nakorotubu, Ena bosei ga mai vei iratou na vei tacini e lewe lima na luvei Ratu Kalawailagi.
qai kuri tale yani.

vinaka saka

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Permalink Reply by EPI KOLINIVALA on June 9, 2010 at 8:18am: Vinaka vaka levu na veitokoni kei nai vakadinadina ni nomuni tukutuku Kingdom citizen, ni ko sa qai tukuni iko ga mai vakadodonu, Sa qai dina kina na nodrai vakadewa vei keimami na qase dina ni Nakorotubu ni o MANAMANAIVALU na kawa ni LUVENISALA nei Rokomautu, ni vosota ni vosa bibi toka, E rawa ni talanoataka vaka vinaka vei iko o ira na turaga ni Bure nai tukutuku oqo ,baleta ni ra a susuga tiko mai Bure sa cauravou levu sa ra kauta yani vaka vanua vei Ratu Kalawailagi mai Uluinakorotubu, sa cauravou levu sara, sa qai kaya vua na VUNISAU , sa vinaka sao tamata levu sara mai qai kaukauwa, qai lai tara toka yani era e dua na nomu vale me Bure Levu, koya me vakananumi kina na nodra kauti iko mai na kai Bure, ia me Bure levu, koya e ra basika mai kina na yavusa Burelevu e daidai , era sega ni dau via vakaraitaka vaka dodonu vei iratou nomu qase nai tukutuku qo na neitou qase , baleta ni ra dau vei vakarokorokotaki tu, ia na veidabui levu e tiko e loma.

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Permalink Reply by EPI KOLINIVALA on June 10, 2010 at 6:52am: au kerei iko ga Kingdom citizen, ke o via vosa me baleta na gonesau , vakaraitaka mai na yacamu dina , kua tale na one side tiko mai.

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Permalink Reply by maxter on March 2, 2010 at 7:58pm: Yes manuanuivalu did exist o koya a gone susu ga mai uluinakorotubu e a sega ni taura na tutu ni gonesau; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by bond on February 9, 2010 at 2:24pm: Dou bula na wekaqu mai Ra....

o VB sa cabe cake ena colo kei na Nalawa ena macawa qoka me lai sikova na veikoro kece ena tikina o Nalawa me yaco sara i Nukulau village voleka tale yani i monasavu.lai raica na dredre ni gaunisala,susu oni,tei jaina kei na tei dalo ka caka tu mai na vanua sautu mai na Colo kei Ra.Sa nanumi me sa caka vinaka na gaunisala i kea tara e vica na koronivuli me veivuke vei ira na na gonevuli ka ra dau taubale taka tu na veitokaitua kei na veiqakilo me ra yaco ki na koro ni matanitu mai Nasau.Na vanua ya dau sega ni cabeta rawa tiko o joji shiu raj ka vakatabakidua taka tu ga nona veivuke ena Ra coastline.sa caqeta tale ga o vb nomudou roko kei nomudou d.o.bau kina e vuqa sara na i vakailesilesi ka ra dau mai vakawiliwili tu ga ena vale volavola ni yasana.

sa vaqaqai tiko qoka o Joji Shiu Raj nona mai dolava e rua nona vale e rakiraki town ka transfer taka kece i kea na vale volavola ni matanitu wili kina na LTA ki na nona vale ka mai laiva tu yani na nomudou vale ni Yasana me mai lala didi tu yani ena nona dela ni gauna ni veiliutaki.

Sa ra drakai mai na vanua turaga mai Nalawa district nodra waraka tiko me dola na Studio city me vaka na bose ni yasana o Ra,me ra cakacaka i na city vou qo ratou na tiko i na Coast,supply na kakana ratou mai na Colo.ma ni seva ni sa mai siova tiko o tui Tavua na qele i Yaqara,sega ni kila ni yaco ga i Rabulu nona qele.sa rauta me leqa.na qele e kilai koya ga na kena i taukei.

vakanuinui ni sa na vamatatataki kece na tikina ya ni sa mai oti na veisiko ki na vanua vaka u'raga o Ra.sa nuitaka tu ni na dua na gauna vinaka vei Ra ena gauna vou qo.; ▶ Reply to This