Na cava esa rui levu kina na veimata lotu va-Karisito e Viti ena gauna nikua. Eda kida cala ga sa dua e tekivutaka mai e dua na lotu baci oti ga sucu tale mai e dua na lotu. Na cava e vakavuna tiko na lade lotu? Qai kenai kuri ni vei lotu vovou kece qo era vaka mera sa vakamuria tiko vakalevu na nodra i tuvatuva ni lotu na na dui kaikai ena veiyasai vuravura!

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 Na cava sa caka mai qo? Au volavola tiko vaka viti, ulutaga vakaviti...www.matavuvale.com...(Fijian Network). Sa curu uciwai tale na ka sa caka tiko qo...vavei me da veivosaki ga vakaviti. E sega ni keirau leqa kei Jerex, me tarogi ga o cei e leqa tiko. E vakaraitaki eke na nomuni sega ni kila tiko na nomuni ivolatabu kei na ka vuni e tu kina....okoya gona e sa rui gata kina vaka na i sele i wau bati irua. E vaqarai tiko na dina baleta na dina oqo ena qai sereki keda.

Ok..sa da na veivosaki mada vakavalagi vakalailai ga.....Deuteronomy 23:2 says that bastards can not attend church unto the tenth generation.  If Jesus was spawned by Mary and Jehovah as the Bible claims then he is technically a bastard and should not be the leader of the church...ask yourself, from the time of arrival of missionaries to our shores till now...that was in 1835.What number of generation are you in? Well the bible says...up to the tenth generations..it's a point worth mentioning guys!!!

Oqo gona na veika au tukuna tiko ni vuna na noqu tu vakawawa ena noqu vakabauta ka meu vakelia vinaka mada ni bera niu vakadeitaki au ki na dua na ka meu tudei kina.Edua tale, o Paula okoya a mai veisautaka na i vakavuvuli ni Jisu e segai ni mai tisaipeli,apositolo se cava tale, ka sega kina ni tu vua edua na dodonu me veisautaka kina na i vakavuvuli nei Jisu.

E a tukuna o Jisu ni rawarawa me na takali ko vuravura kei lomalagi, ka me qai rawa ni taqusi edua na matanivola mai na lawa. Ia na lawa gona oqori sa kauta laivi o Paula ka vakai sosomitaka ena vakabauta ni qaravi Kalou makawa vaka-Roma. Edua tale, wilika vakavinaka na i talanoa ni nona raivotu mai Tamasiko ena Cakacaka 9...Cakacaka 22  kei na Cakacaka 26. And don't forget to read Roman 3:7, in that verse he let the cat out of the bag.

For the sake of the Gentiles, Paul and Peter, and those who followed them, changed the religion taught by Jesus. They believed in his crucifixion and resurrection and that he was ''accursed'' to redeem them of their sins. They taught the people that it was sufficient for a man to believe in the blood of Jesus to obtain salvation. Gradually this easy religion, which should be called Paulinism, became more and more prominent till it swept away every vestige of the principles taught by the founder of what today is known as Christianity.

Oqori e vica wale sara mai na drau na veika e tu ena i volatabu, me da vakawilika vakamalua ka vakasamataka. Dua tale na Original Sin, me tarogi mada o kemuni na tinani gone...sa oti beka li na mosi ni vakasucu kei na kana mai na buno ni yadreda? Io, na vuni tubu vaka yauyau ni veimatalotu ena gauna nikua, e vu mai na sega ni vakadeitaki keda rawa ki na dua na ka dina. Kenai karua, na malele ni yaloda ki na veika e vakarairai, vaka i ukuuku kei na rorogo beka ni vakatagi, ka so era tu ena veilecayaki ka sa qai ra vakayagataka na veilecayaki oqori edua na kena i wase me ra rawata kina na nodra i vavakoso ena kamikamica ni vosa ni  veitemaki. Me kua talega ni da guilecava ni vicasagavulu nai tukutuku era tu ena i volatabu ka ra taura mai kina na nodra i le ni veibacani. Sa qai ka vakaloloma sara ni da rogoca eso era tukuni yalo, ni ra tukuna ni vanua vou se lotu vou era sa mai tiko kina, era sa qai kunei Jisu kina....oqo nai vakaraitaki ni noda sega ni kila tiko na i volatabu....''Dro mai vei Jisu me vaqarai Jisu''. Sa qai dua na ka vakaloloma.

Sa rauta me sa 2000+  na yabaki  na noda wawa ka sa veicalati kei na ka e tukuna vei koya na bete levu, ena gauna ni nona veilewaitaki.

 

Vinaka vakalevu.

A meca i e sega ni mai ka vakapapalagi se vakaviti!

Ke o sa rawa ni kila na ka e volai yani ia sai koya.

Koya ga ya..o Jius duadua ga! Full Stop. se o cei ta

le? Mohhamed? LOL

Vinaka S. Tulega,

E vinaka sara ga ni o sa vakamacalataka mai na nomu nanuma kei na veika o vakabauta me baleta na Lotu vakarisito.

E dua ga na ka au raica rawa ena nomu vakamacala me baleta na Turaga o Jisu kei na Nona sucu. E CALA TIKO na nomu vakadewataka na tiki ni Vola Tabu qori (Deut 23:2). Na Vosa ni Kalou (ya kevaka o vakabauta ni Vosa ni Kalou), e sega ni veicalati se veileti. Na noda vakadewataka ga e cala. Ena nomui vakamacala, o via dusia tiko ni tiki ni Volatabu qori e rawa talega ni apply-taki vei Jisu?

Eda sa baci vagolei tale qo ena dua na vakasama ni dua na vakavuvuli ka cakitaki tiko kina na mana ni bula vata kei Jisu.

Sa vinaka- da taura mada na i le qo - .@Siova Tulega 

O cavuta tiko na vosa qo ..... BASTARD. Nomu vakadewataka nai balebale ni vosa qo e CALA kemuni. Matai mada ga ni ka, eda sa bula tiko qo ena gauna ni Loloma- SEGA ni gauna ni Vunau. Kenai karua, O via vakadewataka tiko e dua na vosa ena kenai vakavakadewa ena "gauna nikua" ka sega ni kenai vakavakadewa ena "gauna ka volai kina".

Today the word 'bastard" means someone who was born of parents who are unmarried. It also means someone who was born without any known father. So, in your explanation you are accusing Jesus of being a 'bastard" ...... you are only attempting to make the Word of God clash against each other with the purpose of discrediting it.

YOU NEED TO TAKE IT IN THE CONTEXT IT WAS WRITTEN.

The meaning of that word (bastard) in Deut 23:2 is mentioned in the Book of Leviticus chapter 18.. and I suggest you have a read.

It refers to someone born from unlawful sexual activities - a child who is a product of incest .....

.@S Tulega, I do not need to go further and explain to you what the rest of your piece (can not attend church unto the tenth generation) means as this is only detracting from what we are discussing here.

I also suggest to you ..... MASU VAKALEVU, ka kerea vua na YALOTABU me vakatakila vei iko nai balebale ni Nona Vosa - you cannot interpret it through your own wisdom.

It is not about how much you know of the Word of God, it is about the Spirit of God revealing to you what His Word means.

vinaka.

Vinaka Sivo,

I think I get the gist of what you are saying. God bless

Can I just say ...... it is well and good to rely on the Spirit of God - BUT the Spirit of God can only operate on the Word of God. If you do not have the WORD OF GOD, remember, the devil also believes God! You have knowledge when you study the Word. Whatever you have gained from your studies will be the "doctrine" you share with others. What I am saying is that you cannot discard doctrine because that is the guideline that you base your belief.

God bless.

Sivo,

Yalovinaka wilika na Vakatekivu 17:1-7, na veika bibi e tukuni tiko eke oya na veiyalayalati ni Kalou kei Aparama. Kevaka e muria na nona i vakaro kei na i vunau, ena -(1) Vakalevutaka na nona kawa me vaka na nuku ni matasawa. (2) Ena qisi koya me na tama ni veimatanitu e vuqa.( 3) Era na basika na Tui mai vei ira na nona kawa.(4) Era na taukena na vanua ko Kenani me tawamudu.

Nai vakatakilakila se i vakadinadina ni veiyalayalati oqo, oya me na cilivi okoya kei na luvena(Isimeli) kei ira na nona tamata era vakaruru ena nona delavuvu ni vale. Na ka me nanumi vinaka tiko ni matai ni veiyalayalati a caka vei Aparama kei Isimeli. O cavuti Mohammed tiko ena nomu lecaika beka, ni okoya e basika mai na kawa nei Isimeli, ka i sevu ni veiyalayalati a solia na Kalou vei Aparama e donuya okoya.Dina beka ni a tinana walega na dauveiqaravi, ia okoya e tukuna tu nai volatabu ni luvei Aparama....kei Mohammed na nodra Parofita.

It is a spiritual and moral office not material, the quality and righteousness of the candidate is what is important not the lineage.

 

Vinaka Sivo.. 

          

 

Vinaka Jerex!

Totoka na nomuni vakamacala....edua ga na ka e leqa, ni o vakamacalataka sara tikoga mai qori na veika au tukuna tiko oqo, se cava na kena dina, niu sa kunea e levu na veicalati kei na veisaqasaqa ni vosa e volai, okoya kau a tukuna kina mai cake niu na cegu mada ka meu vaqara na dina ni veika era veisaqasaqa tu qo. You only need to study your bible thoroughly to know the countless contradictories in the so called, Words of God, in the bible.

Na leqa e tiko ni sa mai okati tiko na vosa oqo na ''bastard'' ni vosa ca...e sega sara. Kevaka eda taura na kena i balebale dina, o ni sa vakamacalataka toka ya mai cake. E tolu na ka bibi e tiko, me wasei mai na i volatabu - (1) na i vunau (2) na i vakaro (3) na parofisai. Ia, na veika e baleta na ''bastard'', e oka tiko ena i vakaro vei ira na Isireli.

Na leqa e tiko ena gauna nikua na noda sa via kila tiko na wasea na gauna...me dua na gauna ni vunau, na gauna ni loloma kei na gauna cava  so tale...vaka i vei mada na gauna ni lesu mai vakarua?...sa rua na udolu vakacaca qo na yabaki, sa dua beka e kila rawa na gauna ena lesu mai kina?, baleta ni sa laukila rawa tiko na gauna ni vunau kei na gauna ni loloma. Au vakabauta na noda via semata na veika e tu ena i volatabu me va-gaunataki ena kauti keda tani ga mai ena ka dina...ka na basika kina na veilecayaki ka vakasucuma na veimataqali basogani lotu sa basika tu nikua. ''It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out''...Eso e tukuna ni vakavoui na nona bula mai valeniveivesu, eso e tukuna na raivotu, eso e tomika mai eso na tikini volatabu ka ra tukuna ni dodonu me muri...okoya sa mai vuqa kina na basogani lotu vovou e basika baleta ni sa da tu ena veilecayaki ni sega ni kilai tiko na ka dina se ka vuni ni i volatabu.

 

vinaka.

drau bula,ulutaga ni Lotu sa levu sara tiko,ka sa levu na kenai vakamacala matata,au mada ga au kurabui ni levu na lewe ni matavule e matata tu vei ira na vosa ni Kalou,ni ra sa vakamacala e lailai tale o ira na i talatala,sa kenai balebale ni da sa kila kece tiko na dina.vinaka ni sa levu na veimata lotu sa rawa ni da vakcegu ni o keda na i taukei se lewei viti e da sa kila kece na dina,vei au sega niu cata e vinaka,io dua ga na taro levu e tiko koya au dau taroga tiko ni levu na mata lotu e ra tauyavu ena veiba,veicudruvi,sega ni duavata o liuliu kei nona i vukevuke,oti ya lai tauyavu sara okoya ka dua,ya ga kemuni.

totoka na veivakamacala,wawa me ons mada mai o Bemana,mai tekivuna warai ni bau sauma tale mai,dua na yaca duatani toka vua BEMANA kaila

 

drau bula maleka... .@Sailosi

E totoka dina na noda veiwasei kei na soli vakasama me baleta na noda lotu vaKarisito e Viti.

Vei au e sega talega ni ca na kena tubu cake mai na veimatalotu vovou eso. E vakaraitaka tikoga na galala kei na gagadre e tiko vei keda nai taukei meda voleka yani vua na Kalou. That cannot be a bad thing, I would think!

Au vakabauta meda kua ni via leqataki ira era tauyavu ena veicudruvi se veileti - laiva me tubu vata na kau ca kei na kau vinaka - na vuana ga ena qai vakadeitaka na kena ka vinaka ka dodonu. Na Kalou e dikeva na uto kei na ivi ni tamata vakayadudua ka kila talega na loma ni tamata, noda vakanananu .....etc...etc....

E kaya na Psalms 91:1

He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty.

 

vinaka.

ps. e vaka vei au se laki vakasasa vuaka o Bemana..... lols!

Dou sa Bula vinaka ! Wananavu na vei wasei kei na soli vakasama @ Jerex  e noqu vakasama, ni dodonu mera kawaitaki, ke sa tubu na veileti ena vei vale ni lotu, e dodonu me ra walia na ka oqori ko nai Talatala se ko iratou na qase ni Lotu. 

1. Na veika kecekece i vuravura oqo, e dredre ! ia, esega ni dua na ka, ena sega ni rawati, kevaka ena sega ni sagai.  Oqori e nona vakavaka dewa E dua na gone mai Suva ni kaya toka, EVERYTHING IS DIFFICULT BUT NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE

2. E dua na ka e dodonu me Vunau taki vakadodonu, vei ira na tamata, ni sega ni rawa ni dua na tamata, me rawa ni bulataka tale mai, na bula, okoya ka sa bula sivia. E rawa ni vakatamutamuria, se me vakamuria na veika koya, ia ena sega ga ni rawa, ni kauta lesu tale mai na siga ena noa. Na veika e sa sivia, e sa gole , kei na veika ni Mataka ! sai koya nai Bolebole e solia tu vei koya  ko Vuravura.

3. De tekivu sara ga mai vei Talatala, me vaka eso nai vakamacala etoka i cake oqo, oqori e so na ka e dodonu me caka kina na vosa vakadodonu. E dodonu me ratou veitauri liga na qase ni lotu, ka ra cakava na ka e dodonu me ra  cakava me rawa ni wali kina na leqa sa mai yaco.

a.) @ Jerex ...... e sega ni dodonu me caka na were Ubiubi...e dodonu me caka na vosa vakadodonu. Me wali rawa na leqa ni se lailai, baleta ena gauna e sa levu kina, e sana dredre na walia.

b.) E dua na leqa levu vei keda tabuyani, ni gauna keda dau vosa kina, keda sa dau via lewa tale tiko na Kalou, me keda dau tukuna na Kalou me qai dikeva. Me iko sa lai vakamatata taka tale mai na cakacaka ni Kalou. Qori iko sa  lai " YALO " tale tu, o koya e kilai vei keda na Kaiviti ni Tevoro.

c.)Au sa kurabui ka qoroqoro ena yawa ni vakasama ni so na wiliki ira tu oqo, ni era lotu vakarisito, era sa vakanuinui tu ena bula mai Lomalagi, ia era sega ni ra vakayacora tiko mada ga na nodrai i tavi, se cakacaka ni Vuravura oqo sai koya na veilomani ni sebera ko Lomalagi .

4.  Au sa kaya oti kau na kaya tale,e dodonu me vulici vinaka nai volatabu ni se bera ni wasei, e levu nai talatala era vei vakacalai me vakamuri nai vakavuvuli vakai volatabu. OQORI NA VEI VAKACALAI LEVU.

a.) Na leqa levu sara ga qo - E levu vei kemuni nai talatala e dau dreta ga mai na vei tikini volatabu, okoya e ganita me rau veisotari kei na ka kemuni vunau taka, veitalia ni ka e vinaka, se me ka e ca. E dua na ka me kemuni nanuma ni vei wase kece ni volatabu e volai tukutuku taka tu, na veika okoya ka yaco vei ira eso, ena dua na gauna makawa sara, ki vei ira e so na taba tamata.

b.) e sega ni laudre ga mai e dua na tikina me, iko rawa ni vakadonuya kina nomu i le, e dodonu mo kila mai nai wakani talanoa okoya e vu mai kina, na kena cavuti na wiligusu okoya ka vakayagataki. ka dodonu me iko vakamacalataka nai talanoa okoya ka mai cavuti kina wiligusu, okoya ni via laveta mai kina dua na veitalanoa.

c.) Ko kila vinaka niko kauta mai na same 91 e tautauvata sara tu ga, kei na ka Au sa kaya oti, e karua sara tu ga ni dua na vuni kau, e sega ni dua na wakana,ka sasala wavoki tu ga me vaka na walai se wabosucu. E sega ni dua na wakamu me iko vakadei taka kina na vuni kena cavuti na same oqori, se cava ka cavuti kina ?,na kena ka vola me yaco mai nomu mai vosa kina vica sagavulu na udolu na yabaki yani i muri oqo.

d.) E dodonu me vakaliuci vei ira na tamata, me ra dui cakava na nodrai tavi vaka vuravura oqo ni sebera ni ra via toso yani kina bula vakalomalagi. E dodonu me ra kila na vei ka e baleta nai Volatabu, ka me vulici talega vakavinaka baleta oqori e DUSIDUSI tu vei keda na kawa tamata ena gauna nikua.

 

 

 

 

 

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