The Pharisees asked Jesus for a sign to prove that He is the Messiah. The only sign Jesus gave them is the sign of the prophet Jonah.
"For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the whale so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth."Mathew12:39-40.John 11:9 shows Jesus referred to the amount of sunlight in a day as 12 hours. So Jesus knew exactly what He was talking about and He meant 72 hours. But the problem is people have been trying for ages to cramp three days and three nights into 36 hours from good Friday to Easter Monday morning.A true believer will believe whatever comes out of His mouth and if you believed in the Jesus who was buried for 36 hours and rose again on an Easter Monday then you are denying the real YAHUSHUWAH who died for your sins.
Day of Death
Jesus Himself predicted the day He will be crusified in.
"Ye know that after two days is the feast of Passover and the Son of man is betrayed to be crucified."Mathew 261-2. He said he is going to be killed on the day of Passover. Jesus was crucified in the year 31.A.D and according to the Jewish calender, the Passover for that year fell on a Wednesday.
Israel used to observe Passover by killing an unblemished lamb and smearing the blood on every doorpost in order to escape the angel of death.
1Corinthians 5:7 says that Christ is now our Passover as He was sacrificed and His blood shed in order for true believers to escape death. Jesus was crucified and buried on the day of Passover,31.A.D.
Preparation Day
All four Gospel testifies that Jesus was crucified on preparation day.Preparation day is a day before a Sabbath.But John was very specific. "..because it was preparation day, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the Sabbath (for that Sabbath was an high day)."John 19:31.A high day means it was an annual Sabbath. It is not an ordinary weekly seventh day Sabbath.It also can fall on any day of the week.
Key in Leviticus
Leviticus 23:5-7."In the fourteenth day of the same month at even is the Lord's Passover. And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread... Ye shall have no servile work therein." Here we can see that the Passover was also that day of preparation meant by the Gospels.Jesus died on Passover which was also preparation day. "And that day was the preparation day and the Sabbath and drew on."Luke 23:54.
Sabbath After Passover
Mark 16:1 "And when the Sabbath came past Mary Magdalene and Mary the mother of James and Salome had bought sweet spices so that they might come and annoint Him." This verse refers to the annual Sabbath (15th) after Passover(14 th).Jesus died around 3 pm and these women following the body to the burial before sunset would simply leave no time for shopping.
The Weekly Sabbath
Luke 23:56 "And they returned and prepared spices and ointments and rested the Sabbath day according to the COMMANDMENTS." Here Luke was referring to the weekly Sabbath as demanded by the Ten Commandments.The canonized Gospels were referring to two Sabbaths in the same week all along. After the burial on the even of Passover(Wednesday) they rested for the annual Sabbath of unleavened bread(Thursday).The next day would be Friday and the women collected and prepared spices and ointments. Then they again rested for the weekly Sabbath(Saturday)
Matthew 28:1 "In the end of the Sabbath as it began to dawn towards the first day of the week came Mary Magdalene..." The inspired Greek text reads "after the Sabbaths." It is plural meaning more than one Sabbath in that particular week. While many points to these as contradictions in the four Gospels, they are in fact complementing each.
According to Mark15:34 Jesus died around the ninth hour of daylight which is around 3pm and was buried the same day before the Passover or Wednesday sunset. So three days and there nights later would end just before the sunset on Saturday or the seventh day of the week or the Lord's day.Jesus Christ did not rise from the dead on Sunday morning.
May God be glorified for unwavering love

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The finished work of Jesus Christ or grace doesn't guarantee you a licence to break the Commandments of God.
Jesus came so that the Law would be fulfilled not broken.
"Think not that I am not come to destroy the law,or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.For verily I say to you,Till heaven and earth pass not one jot or tittle shall pass from the law,till all be fulfilled."Matthew 5:17-18.

URS you have shown here that you neither know anything about GRACE or the purpose of the LAW.

The Purpose of the LAW



Galatians 3:24-25
24 Therefore the law was our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 25 But after faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor. (NKJV)


Spiritual Application:

24. Wherefore. So that. The law was our schoolmaster. A schoolmaster (Gr paidagōgos) is really the trusted boy-leader or child-escort employed to attend a boy from six to sixteen and who watched over his morals and manners. He was not the teacher and he had no authority to punish. His business was to see that the child went to the right place and did the right thing. Such was the purpose of the law, to prescribe right conduct and impose certain checks. The law convicts of sin, restrains from sin, and condemns for sin; but the law cannot save from sin. Bring us to Christ. The God-given purpose of the law has led us to Christ; its work is finished. That we might be justified by faith. The ultimate purpose of the law.

25. Faith. The faith in Christ. No longer under a schoolmaster. The born-again believer is no longer under the boy-leader, who has been discharged from service. We are not under the law, but under grace (Rom 6:15).[1]

3:24 The law is pictured as a guardian and guide of children, or as a tutor. 13 This emphasizes the thought of teaching; the law taught lessons concerning the holiness of God, the sinfulness of man, and the need for atonement. Here the word is used to describe one who exercises discipline and general supervision over minors, or the immature.

The words to bring us are not in the original, but were supplied by the translators of the King James tradition. If we leave them out, the verse teaches that the law was a Jewish guardian up to Christ, that is, until the coming of Christ, or with the coming of Christ in view. There is a sense in which the law preserved the people of Israel as a distinct nation by regulations concerning marriage, property, foods, etc. When “the faith” came, it was first announced to this nation that had been so miraculously kept in ward through the centuries. Justification by faith was promised on the basis of the finished work of Christ, the Redeemer.

3:25 The law is the tutor, but once the Christian faith has been received, believing Jews are no longer under the law. How much less Gentiles, such as the Galatians, who were never under the tutor! Verse 24 teaches that man is not justified by law; verse 25 teaches that the law is not the rule of life for one who is justified. [2]



(Gk. paidagogos) (3:24, 25; 1 Cor. 4:15) Strong’s #3807: The Greek term means “custodian” or a person who attends a child. In Greek households a faithful servant was given the responsibility of taking care of a boy from childhood to puberty. The servant kept him from both physical and moral evil, and went with him to his amusements and to school. Paul used the word to say that the law functioned as a child-custodian. The law acted as an outward check on desires, thus making the consciousness of sin more acute. And since none of us is able to deal with sin by ourselves, the law guides us to Christ, our only Rescuer and Savior.[3]




[1]KJV Bible commentary. 1997, c1994 (2388). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.

13 (3:24) The Greek word paidagōgos (whence the English pedagogy) literally means a “child-leader.” Such a person, usually a slave, was to see that the child got to and from school. Sometimes he taught as well.

[2]MacDonald, W., & Farstad, A. (1997, c1995). Believer's Bible Commentary : Old and New Testaments (Ga 3:24). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.

[3]Radmacher, E. D., Allen, R. B., & House, H. W. (1999). Nelson's new illustrated Bible commentary (Ga 3:23-25). Nashville: T. Nelson Publishers.

The Gospel of Matthew was written 6 YEARS AFTER THE CRUCIFIXION.
The Gospel of Luke written 30 YEARS AFTER JESUS WAS KILLED.
Now nowhere in their inspired writings have they ever implied that the Sabbath have been changed but have always referred to Saturday as the Sabbath and Sunday as the first day of the week(why didn't they refer to it as the Sabbath the first day of the week?)
They were all written years after Jesus was crucified and surely they wouldn't have missed such am important ' new commandment.'
Matthew 28:1."In the end of the Sabbath as it began to dawn towards the first day of the week.."
If Matthew knew of any change being done it would have been written in the following manner: In the end of the seventh day of the week as it began to dawn towards the Sabbath.
Nowhere in the Scripture do the New Testament writers ever implied that the Sabbath was ever changed.

URS please stop trying to twist the scriptures to suit your theology. The bible is very clear that the resurrection took place on Sunday and that's it. Either you accept it or you don't.




Alright now for the moment show everybody tuning into this conversation whereby in Scripture was the observance of Sunday warranted by the Lord.
I refuse to believe a lie.

URS "I refuse to believe a lie", not only do you believe it but you also promote it. Just REPENT and put your faith in the finished work of the Lord Jesus Christ. The SDA and Ellen G White wont save you from going to Hell.

The question you're asking here is just another way for you to justify your Sabbath keeping. That has been already answered.






For your information Joe I'm not an SDA and certainly disagreed with Allen White on many things.I was brought up a Methodist.
In fact I disagree with nearly all doctrine of many churches and including the Methodist and your Pentecostal too.
I'm now getting the best guidance of how to live a good Christian life from the Bible only.
I learnt a lot from history(biblical and world) of how pagan festivities became core doctrines of the church started by Simon Magus which developed into modern day Christianity.
Now I'm trying to expose all satanic doctrine in our modern day churches.

Good luck with all that faith you have but remember faith without work is not Grace.

"For as the body without the spirit is dead,so faith without works is dead also." James 2:26.

URS the views that you're posting in this discussion is consistent with SDA doctrines and Ellen G White.

You have no idea what "church" is or its purpose. For a start Jesus is building His church (Matthew 16:18). Further more Jesus is coming back again for His church (Ephesian 5:27). Also you don't realise that the "church" is the body of Jesus Christ (Colossian 1:18; Ephesian 1:22, 5:23).


Since you disagree with what the church is about, it is fair to say that you have no part in what Jesus is doing in the earth.


You haven't exposed any satanic doctrines at all, as a matter of fact you have exposed yourself as the perpetrator of satanic doctrines.






CHURCH—a local assembly of believers as well as the redeemed of all the ages who follow Jesus Christ as Savior and Lord.

In the four Gospels of the New Testament, the term church is found only in Matthew 16:18 and 18:17. This scarcity of usage in those books that report on the life and ministry of Jesus is perhaps best explained by the fact that the church as the body of Christ did not begin until the Day of Pentecost after the *ascension of Christ (Acts 1:14).

That the church began on the Day of Pentecost may be demonstrated in various ways: (1) Christ Himself declared the church to be yet future; (2) it was founded upon the death, resurrection, and ascension of Christ, and such an accomplished fact was not possible until Pentecost (Gal. 3:23-25); and (3) there could be no church until it was fully purchased with Christ’s blood (Eph. 1:20).


Nature. The Greek word for church is ekklesia, an ancient Greek term for the people of a kingdom who are called to take their role as responsible citizens. This word is used 115 times in the New Testament, mostly in the Book of Acts and the writings of the apostle Paul and the General Epistles. At least ninety-two times this word refers to a local congregation. The other references are to the whole church, or to all believers everywhere in all ages, to all who follow Christ, without respect to locality or time. Most such general reference to the church occurs in Ephesians 1:22, 3:10-21, 5:23-32. The assembly of all the redeemed in one place will become a reality only after the return of Christ (Heb. 12:23; Rev. 21-22). Most of the New Testament emphasis on the church is on the idea of the local church or congregation, the visible operation of the church in a given time, place, or community.


Commission. After His resurrection, Jesus commissioned His followers to make disciples and teach them what He had taught (Matt. 28:16). The Book of Acts begins this process as the early church pursues this commission under the leadership of the Lord Himself, by the presence and power of the Holy Spirit through whom Jesus continues to direct and empower His church.


Gatherings. The early church met in the temple and Jewish synagogues, as well as private homes of believers (Acts 5:42). Later, in recognition of Christ’s resurrection on the first day of the week, Sunday became the principal time for assembled worship (1 Cor. 16:2). Through these worship and fellowship gatherings, believers were discipled and nurtured for practical living, faithful service, and an abiding witness in Jesus’ name.


Organization. The early church’s organization was flexible to meet changing needs. Offices included the *apostles, *prophets and *prophetesses, *evangelists, *elders and elder women, *bishops, *ministers or teachers, *deacons, and deaconesses (Eph. 4:11; 1 Tim. 3:1-13; Titus 2:1-3; Acts 21:9; Rom 16:1).

Although church organization varies from denomination to denomination today, the pattern and purpose of the New Testament remains a model for churches as they pursue their mission in the world.[1]


[1]Hayford, J. W., & Thomas Nelson Publishers. (1995). Hayford's Bible handbook. Nashville: Thomas Nelson Publishers.



It's always you saying that I have twisted the Scripture even though it is there for you to verify.
Moses was used by God to give out the Ten Commandments.
Moses predicted about Jesus saying that Jesus will also be like Moses in upholding the Law or all that Moses stood for.
"The Lord thy God will raise up unto thee,a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, LIKE UNTO ME; UNTO HIM YE SHALL HEARKEN....AND IT SHALL COME TO PASS THAT WHOSOEVER WILL NOT HEARKEN UNTO MY WORDS WHICH HE SHALL SPEAK IN MY NAME, I WILL REQUIRE IT OF HIM." Deuteronomy 18:15-19.
Please remember you have to observe God's Commandment in order to be accounted worthy. Grace will not guarantee you a ticket to heaven if you keep on breaking His Laws.

Yes a million times yes GRACE will guarantee me a ticket to heaven. Further more GRACE is on a higher plane then the LAW.

Please consider this:

Grace is on a Higher Level than the LAW



Ephesians 2:15
15 having abolished in His flesh the enmity, that is, the law of commandments contained in ordinances, so as to create in Himself one new man from the two, thus making peace, (NKJV)


Spiritual Application:

A third aspect of Christ’s work was abolition of the enmity that smoldered between Jew and Gentile and also between man and God. Paul identifies the law as the innocent cause of the enmity, that is, the law of commandments contained in ordinances. The Law of Moses was a single legislative code; yet it was made up of separate, formal commandments; these in turn consisted of dogmas or decrees covering many, if not most, areas of life. The law itself was holy, just, and good (Rom. 7:12), but man’s sinful nature used the law as an occasion for hatred. Because the law actually did set up Israel as God’s chosen earthly people, many Jews became arrogant and treated the Gentiles with contempt. The Gentiles struck back with deep hostility, which we have come to know all too well as anti-Semitism. But how did Christ remove the law as the cause of enmity? First, He died to pay the penalty of the law that had been broken. He thus completely satisfied the righteous claims of God. Now the law has nothing more to say to those who are “in Christ”; the penalty has been paid for them in full. Believers are not under law but under grace. However, this does not mean they can live as they please; it means they are now enlawed to Christ, and should live as He pleases.

As a result of abolishing the hostility stirred up by the law, the Lord has been able to usher in a new creation. He has made in Himself from the two, that is, from believing Jew and believing Gentile, one new man—the church. Through union with Him, the former combatants are united with one another in this new fellowship. The church is new in the sense that it is a kind of organism that never existed before. It is important to see this. The NT church is not a continuation of the Israel of the OT. It is something entirely distinct from anything that has preced...ow it. This should be apparent from the following:

1. It is new that a Gentile should have equal rights and privileges with a Jew.

2. It is new that both Jews and Gentiles should lose their national identities by becoming Christians.

3. It is new that Jews and Gentiles should be fellow members of the Body of Christ.

4. It is new that a Jew should have the hope of reigning with Christ instead of being a subject in His kingdom.

5. It is new that a Jew should no longer be under the law.

The church is clearly a new creation, with a distinct calling and a distinct destiny, occupying a unique place in the purposes of God. But the scope of Christ’s work does not stop there. He has also made peace between Jew and Gentile. He did this by removing the cause of hostility, by imparting a new nature, and by creating a new union. The cross is God’s answer to racial discrimination, segregation, anti-Semitism, bigotry, and every form of strife between men. [1]

having abolished … the law: Paul was not saying that God had rejected the righteous standards of the law. Rather, in Christ the righteous standards that people could never reach have been accomplished. He is our righteousness; in Him, believers fulfill the law (Matt. 5:17, 20; Rom. 3:21, 22, 31). The Christian church, composed of both Jews and Gentiles, is described as one new man. In the earliest days of Christianity, the church was largely made up of Jews. But under the direction of God’s Spirit, the believers witnessed to Gentiles (Acts 10), who then outnumbered the Jewish members.[2]


[1]MacDonald, W., & Farstad, A. (1997, c1995). Believer's Bible Commentary : Old and New Testaments (Eph 2:15). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.

[2]Radmacher, E. D., Allen, R. B., & House, H. W. (1999). Nelson's new illustrated Bible commentary (Eph 2:15-16). Nashville: T. Nelson Publishers.

Right on Eddie.
The only reason I brought this up is because our Sabbath was changed for us and the authorities at that time claimed it was in respect to Jesus rising from the dead on Sunday.
But careful study of scripture shows otherwise.
In fact it was changed because the Roman worshipped the sun god and Sunday is dedicated to their god.Nothing more.
Vinaka Eddie.

qo sa vakaraitaka ga na levu ni noda sesewa. Na Maciu 28 e sega Sabbaths me vaka o ni nanuma, o via vakayagataka na Greek Text you don't even put the Greek word for it. I studied GREEK and there is nowhere that plural thought is found on the greek text or even on the Hebrew Text. Every word you stated above is false




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