The Pharisees asked Jesus for a sign to prove that He is the Messiah. The only sign Jesus gave them is the sign of the prophet Jonah.
"For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the whale so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth."Mathew12:39-40.John 11:9 shows Jesus referred to the amount of sunlight in a day as 12 hours. So Jesus knew exactly what He was talking about and He meant 72 hours. But the problem is people have been trying for ages to cramp three days and three nights into 36 hours from good Friday to Easter Monday morning.A true believer will believe whatever comes out of His mouth and if you believed in the Jesus who was buried for 36 hours and rose again on an Easter Monday then you are denying the real YAHUSHUWAH who died for your sins.
Day of Death
Jesus Himself predicted the day He will be crusified in.
"Ye know that after two days is the feast of Passover and the Son of man is betrayed to be crucified."Mathew 261-2. He said he is going to be killed on the day of Passover. Jesus was crucified in the year 31.A.D and according to the Jewish calender, the Passover for that year fell on a Wednesday.
Israel used to observe Passover by killing an unblemished lamb and smearing the blood on every doorpost in order to escape the angel of death.
1Corinthians 5:7 says that Christ is now our Passover as He was sacrificed and His blood shed in order for true believers to escape death. Jesus was crucified and buried on the day of Passover,31.A.D.
Preparation Day
All four Gospel testifies that Jesus was crucified on preparation day.Preparation day is a day before a Sabbath.But John was very specific. "..because it was preparation day, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the Sabbath (for that Sabbath was an high day)."John 19:31.A high day means it was an annual Sabbath. It is not an ordinary weekly seventh day Sabbath.It also can fall on any day of the week.
Key in Leviticus
Leviticus 23:5-7."In the fourteenth day of the same month at even is the Lord's Passover. And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread... Ye shall have no servile work therein." Here we can see that the Passover was also that day of preparation meant by the Gospels.Jesus died on Passover which was also preparation day. "And that day was the preparation day and the Sabbath and drew on."Luke 23:54.
Sabbath After Passover
Mark 16:1 "And when the Sabbath came past Mary Magdalene and Mary the mother of James and Salome had bought sweet spices so that they might come and annoint Him." This verse refers to the annual Sabbath (15th) after Passover(14 th).Jesus died around 3 pm and these women following the body to the burial before sunset would simply leave no time for shopping.
The Weekly Sabbath
Luke 23:56 "And they returned and prepared spices and ointments and rested the Sabbath day according to the COMMANDMENTS." Here Luke was referring to the weekly Sabbath as demanded by the Ten Commandments.The canonized Gospels were referring to two Sabbaths in the same week all along. After the burial on the even of Passover(Wednesday) they rested for the annual Sabbath of unleavened bread(Thursday).The next day would be Friday and the women collected and prepared spices and ointments. Then they again rested for the weekly Sabbath(Saturday)
Matthew 28:1 "In the end of the Sabbath as it began to dawn towards the first day of the week came Mary Magdalene..." The inspired Greek text reads "after the Sabbaths." It is plural meaning more than one Sabbath in that particular week. While many points to these as contradictions in the four Gospels, they are in fact complementing each.
According to Mark15:34 Jesus died around the ninth hour of daylight which is around 3pm and was buried the same day before the Passover or Wednesday sunset. So three days and there nights later would end just before the sunset on Saturday or the seventh day of the week or the Lord's day.Jesus Christ did not rise from the dead on Sunday morning.
May God be glorified for unwavering love

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bro Uraya, tukuna o Paula e na filipai 3 na ka kece au nanuma tu meu vakadonui kina au sa vakayalitaki vakadua meu rawati Karisito kina... he is referring to all legalisms he use to depend on for justification, this was before he met the Lord Jesus at the crossroads of damascus.He said i consider it all dung and waste not having the righteousness of my own that comes from the law but that which is only through faith in christ.Koya ga tukuna dua na turaga ni Lau ni sa katakata nona i tukuni yalo -au duavata kei vaula ni a kaya ni sa deni pulumakau kecega

The Heresy of Sabbath-Keeping

The New Testament teachings of Paul, far from teaching the necessity of the Sabbath, show that such a teaching is pure heresy. First, consider this passage:

Colossians 2:16Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:

See All... “Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:“ 17 “Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.”

In this passage, Paul says that the keeping of Sabbath days was only a shadow of things to come. He told the Colossians not to let anyone judge them concerning the keeping of the Sabbath days (and other Jewish holy days). Since the Colossians were saved Gentiles who would not have originally kept the Sabbath, Paul is referring to those who would judge them for not keeping the Sabbath. In other words, Paul is clearly saying that the keeping of the Sabbath is no longer necessary. Those who would judge anyone else for not keeping the Sabbath are the ones who are wrong. Here is another important passage:

Galatians 4:9But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage?
See All... “But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage?” 10 "Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years." 11 "I am afraid of you, lest I have bestowed upon you labour in vain."

In Galatians, Paul refers to the observing of days (which would include the keeping of the Sabbath) as one of the "weak and beggarly elements" which put men in "bondage." He is fearful (as he says in many ways throughout the book of Galatians) that they are ready to return to the bondage of Judaism after Jesus Christ has made them free.

The Sabbath as a Sign for Israel

The Bible clearly teaches that the Sabbath was given as a gift to the people of Israel. It was a special sign of God’s covenant between Himself and Israel. Exodus 31:12-18 [12] And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, [13] Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you. [14] Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it is holy unto you: every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death: for whosoever doeth any work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people. [15] Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD:

whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death. [16] Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant. [17] It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed. [18] And he gave unto Moses, when he had made an end of communing with him upon mount Sinai, two tables of testimony, tables of stone, written with the finger of God.
See All... teaches this special relationship between Israel and the keeping of the Sabbath. Note especially verses sixteen and seventeen:

Exodus 31:16 Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant.
See All... “Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant.” 17 “It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.”

To require Gentiles to keep the Sabbath is to attempt to make Jews out of them. It is true that in Old Testament times Gentiles went to the Jew to find the way of salvation. However, in this age of grace, the Bible is just as clear that Jews must come to the Gentiles to find the way to God. Peter, in referring to the salvation of the Gentile Cornelius and his household, said, “But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.” (Acts 15:11But we believe that through the grace of the LORD Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.
See All...). In other words, Jews (like Peter) must be saved according to the pattern of Gentiles (like Cornelius).

New Testament Worship on the First Day

These modern Sabbath-keepers teach that worshipping on the first day of the week was an invention of the Roman Catholics when they assimilated many pagan practices. First of all, Roman Catholicism was not really established as such until the fourth century after Christ. Up until that time, there were some minor moves toward giving an elevated place to the church at Rome, but there was nothing approaching Catholicism. In fact, it took several centuries after this time for them to consolidate their power into one head at Rome.

At any rate, worshipping on the first day of the week began immediately after the resurrection of Christ and continued from that time. Consider the following points: 

  1. Jesus Christ rose from the dead on the first day of the week (Matthew 28:1In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.
    See All...; Mark 16:2And very early in the morning the first day of the week, they came unto the sepulchre at the rising of the sun.
    See All..., 9; Luke 24:1Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them.
    See All...; John 20:1The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre.
    See All...).
  1. The day of Pentecost, when the Holy Ghost came down in power, was on the first day of the week (Acts 2:1And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.
    See All...; Leviticus 23:15-16 [15] And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven sabbaths shall be complete: [16] Even unto the morrow after the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto the LORD.
    See All...).
  1. The early church habitually met on the first day of the week (John 20:19Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.
    See All...; Acts 20:7And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.
    See All...; 1 Corinthians 16:2Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come.
    See All...).
  1. The first day of every week we remember the resurrection of our Lord as the beginning of a new dispensation in which we are no longer under the law but under grace (Romans 6:14-15 [14] For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace. [15] What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.
    See All...; Galatians 4:21Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law?
    See All...; Galatians 5:18But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
    See All...).
  1. CONCLUSION: The Roman Catholic Church was not established until about three centuries after Christ. Christians meeting on the first day of the week began immediately after the resurrection of Christ.

Historical Support for First Day Worship

Finally, consider how early Christians began to worship on the first day of the week according to the historical records. It was mentioned as the day of worship by the following men or in the following writings:

  • Ignatius in his Ad Magnesios written about 115AD. 
  • An unknown author in The Epistle of Barnabas probably written between 107 and 120AD.
  • Justin Martyr who lived from about 100 to 165AD.
  • Tertullian who lived from about 160 to 220AD.

These are just some of the earliest examples. The evidence to the contrary just does not match up. Before the completion of the New Testament and immediately afterwards, the Christian day of worship was the first day of the week. On that special day every week we come together to worship God and to remember that we serve a risen Saviour. Those who teach otherwise try to bring Christians back under the bondage of the law. Their false doctrine should be rejected. Let us worship our Saviour truly on the day of His resurrection.

David Reagan


Oilei...even examples in the Bible was suppressed for non-canonised writings.

URS your cultish SABBATARAINISM belief's have been refuted by the Lord Jesus Christ, Scriptures, and the Apostle Paul so many times. You're trying real hard to please God with your "works" but keep on falling short. Please get SAVED, it'll transform your mindset and come away from dead religious beliefs that you're embracing to be the truth. 



Romans 3:20
20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin. (KJV)

A little history for everyone's knowledge.

Acts 8:824 tells of Simon Peter's rebuking of a man who wants to buy the Holy Spirit. His namebis Simon Magus also known in history as Simon the pater.
This Magus was a magician and people were marvelled by his crafts.
He was the one who started the Mysterious Babylon religion detailed in the book of Revelation 17:5.
This pagan mysterious religion inserted their feast days into a new form of Christianity. Feast such as the birthday of Nimrod also known as Baal(25th December or Christmas), Easter,Halloween and more.Nimrod is the sun god thus Sunday is a sacred day of this pagan religion.

This mysterious Babylon religion did not just pop up in the 3rd century AD.This work of the Antichrist have been present since the time of the apostles.

St Peter's Church in Rome is built over the grave of Simon Magus the pater and not of Simon Peter the apostle of Christ.

Simon Peter,Paul and others were buried in St Albany, England.

God warned to "come out of her my people.'

Didn’t Paul, the apostle to the Gentiles, keep the Sabbath?




When Paul was preaching the gospel in a new city, his custom was to go to the synagogue on the Sabbath (Acts 13:14; 16:13; 17:2). But this does not mean that he kept the Sabbath. Paul wanted to preach to Jews first, and the best place to do this was in a synagogue, and the best day to do it was the Sabbath, when the Jews were there. It was simply a good evangelistic strategy to go to the synagogue on the Sabbath. However, Paul never taught anyone to keep the Sabbath.


Paul sometimes kept Jewish laws such as circumcision, making vows, and participating in temple rituals (Acts 16:3; 18:18; 21:26). When he was with Jews, he lived like they did—but he did not consider himself to be under the old covenant law (1 Cor. 9:20). When with Gentiles, he could live like a Gentile, just as Peter could (v. 21; Gal. 2:14). In the first century, neither Jews nor Gentiles believed that Gentiles should keep the Sabbath. If Paul had a different view, we should expect to see some evidence, but there is none.

In the Gentile cities of Lystra, Derbe and Athens, nothing is said about the Sabbath. In some places, Paul preached every day (Acts 17:17; 19:9). When he was in Troas, we do not hear anything about the Sabbath. Rather, the church waited until the first day of the week to come together and break bread (Acts 20:7). The example of Paul, like that of Jesus, is always liberty, and makes no restrictions or commandments about the Sabbath.

Before we see what Paul taught about the Sabbath, let us summarize our observations.

  1. The first place we see a command for the Sabbath is in the law of Moses.
  2. The law of Moses contains many commands that Christians do not have to keep.
  3. Even laws that came before Moses, such as circumcision, can be obsolete.
  4. To see which laws are obsolete, we need to study the New Testament.
  5. The New Testament never commands the Sabbath.
  6. Jesus always criticizes Sabbath rules, and never tells anyone to be careful about what they do on the Sabbath.
  7. Jesus always groups the Sabbath with ceremonial and ritual laws.
  8. Peter and Paul could live like Gentiles if they wanted to.
  9. Paul said that something about the Ten Commandments was fading away.


Should Christians keep the seventh-day Sabbath?

Is the command clear enough to require people to lose their jobs and alienate their families? No—the only place that the Sabbath is commanded is in a covenant that the New Testament calls obsolete. True, the New Testament does not explicitly say that the Sabbath is obsolete. Instead, it says much more—that the entire old covenant is obsolete. It says that Christians do not have to keep the law of Moses. It says a large category of law is no longer required, and it never tells Christians to keep the SabbathNone of the Sabbatarian arguments proves that the Sabbath is still commanded.


If the Sabbath were required, it is surprising that the New Testament never repeats the command. It has space for all sorts of other commands, from holy kisses to avoiding idolatry, but it never commands the Sabbath. It never criticizes anyone for breaking it. Paul dealt with numerous problems of Christian living, but he never tells slaves or others how to keep the Sabbath. He lists numerous sins that can keep a person out of the kingdom of God, but he never mentions the Sabbath. If the Sabbath is important, the silence of the New Testament is astounding.

But the evidence against the Sabbath goes even further than what we have covered. The New Testament not only fails to command the Sabbath—it says that it is wrong to require it.






One question Talatala Joe.
Tithes is required in the Law.

Why are Pentecostals such as you still requiring it out of your church members if the law has been abolished?

URS please don't change the subject that is currently being discussed. You contradict yourself often in this discussion and you're just showing that the "Sabbath keeping" theology of yours is just a ploy to keep people in bondage.


Jesus came to set the captives free (Luke 4:18-19). Your theology is not working because,


Matthew 22:29
29 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God. (KJV)




All the Sabbath & LAW keeping that you're doing is NOT going to give you SALVATION.


Acts 4:12
12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. (KJV)



Please REPENT now while there is still time for you to do it. Relationship with Jesus is personal not denominational. Just be humble and do it right now.


Here's a simple prayer that you can pray to receive Jesus into your heart:


Dear God in heaven, I realize and admit that I am a sinner. I repent of my sins and ask you to forgive me. I renounce Satan and all his works from my life. I confess Jesus now as my Lord and Saviour. Lord Jesus baptize me now with your Holy Spirit and fire. In Jesus' name I pray. Amen. 











I'm not changing the subject. I've got a point in it.
Please answer the question for everyone to know.

If Sabbath has been abolished as you have been saying all along, why are you still requiring your congregation to give tithes.Tithe was required by the Law.As you have already said if you kept one you have to observe all.
Waiting for your reply Mr Joe.

URS create a new thread/discussion on TITHE so that we can all participate. I told before your problem is that you don't understand GRACE and rightly dividing the word of God. Anybody reading your post can tell that you're all messed-up on the inside. That's because your theology is all messed-up.


Your "resurrection" theology has been defeated by scripture.


Your  "Sabbath" theology has been defeated by scripture.


Now you've moved on to the "tithe".


I asked you before "whether you know what you're doing", it doesn't look like it going by what you've been posting in this discussion. 



I've already said to you, "the rest of us know why we believe what we believe and we don't owe you an explanation". Don't worry about what the rest of us are doing or believe, just get yourself right with God.










I don't have to create a new discussion thread to make you realize and admit that you still have to observe the Law which is the Ten Commandments.

Refusing to answer the simple question above means you ran out of armour.It looks like you don't have any explanation at all.

The apostle Paul knew exactly what he was saying but fly by evangelists not knowing they are being used by Satan have preached a distorted view of what Grace really means.

Grace is not a licence to break the Law of God. Your definition of Grace shows that you don't know what Grace means.

John writing decades after Christ was crucified said,"Whosoever committeth sin transgreseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law." 1 John 3:4.
The apostles knew what Grace really means but Christianity have been taught a different grace where you can break God's law without fear of the Almighty.

Paul said in Romans chapter 6 starting from verse 14:
"For sin shall not have dominion over you for ye are not under the the law but under Grace."

Now immediately after that Paul asks in verse 15,"What then shall we sin because we are not under the law, but under Grace? God forbids."
Paul said we are not to break the law.God wants His law to be observed.Full stop.

We have been taught into believing a different Grace from the Grace offered by God.

"For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." Romans 6:23.

URS your "works" mentality will run out of ideas soon because you're really clutching at straws at the moment. You're jumping all over the place, from one topic to another. Now it's GRACE vs LAW.



GRACE is NOT a license to SIN



Titus 2:11-15
11 For the grace of God has been revealed, bringing salvation to all people. 12 And we are instructed to turn from godless living and sinful pleasures. We should live in this evil world with wisdom, righteousness, and devotion to God, 13 while we look forward with hope to that wonderful day when the glory of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ, will be revealed. 14 He gave his life to free us from every kind of sin, to cleanse us, and to make us his very own people, totally committed to doing good deeds. 15 You must teach these things and encourage the believers to do them. You have the authority to correct them when necessary, so don’t let anyone disregard what you say. (NLT)


Titus 2:11-15
11 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, 12 Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; 13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; 14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works. 15 These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee. (KJV)




11. Why such restraining of oneself? Why demand obedience and submission of men and women? The grace of God. Let no one say grace gives license to sin or to be rude or crude. It would take volumes just to delve into the depths of God’s grace but II Corinthians 8:9 sums it up by saying, “For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, that ye through his poverty might be rich.” Oh, how rich He was in glory, and how poor He became as He took our sins upon Himself! Then how rich we became as the “sons of God” and “heirs of God” (Rom 8:16). This is the salvation grace brings. See Ephesians 2:8–10. Hath appeared refers to the past act of Christ’s first coming to give himself for us, that he might redeem us (vs. 14).

12. Our initial response to God’s grace must be denying ungodliness. Some very blindly accuse those who believe salvation is solely by grace of turning grace into a license to sin. Not so, for grace teaches to deny ungodliness and worldly lusts. While in the world the believer is not of the world and his desires are not to be set on this world system and its values. Rather, we should live soberly. This same word in different forms is in verses 2, 4, 5, 6 of this chapter. Righteously, or in simple terms, just do right no matter what others may do! Godly means in a godly manner, not “holier than thou” but with true piety. In this present world. The gospel is not a pie in the sky, but it is for the here and now, and it teaches how to really live and not just exist, as the world does.

13. There is a great future as well and grace teaches to look for that blessed hope. “If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable” (I Cor 15:19). There is much more to come. Jesus is coming again and it will be the glorious appearing of the great God and our Savior Jesus Christ. The Greek construction here is fantastic for the construction makes the blessed hope and glorious appearing to be one and the same thing. The one true hope and expectation of the believer is seeing Jesus as He is and being like Him (I Jn 3:2). How the heart of the believer longs for that day (II Tim 4:8). Then the same rule of construction makes the great God and our Savior Jesus Christ to be one and the same thing as well. This is a strong statement of the deity of Christ. “Let God be true but every man a liar” but Jesus is God, not simply like God or godly, but He is God, for indeed, “the Word was God” (Jn 1:1).

14. Who gave himself. This is why He humbled Himself (Phil 2:5–8) and became a man so He, the God-man, might suffer and die for our sins and redeem us from all iniquity. The word redeem (Gr lutroō) means “to set free by the payment of a ransom.” The believer is now set free from sin to become zealous of good works. He is “created in Christ Jesus unto good works” (Eph 2:10), not because of good works which would be contrary to salvation by grace.

15. These things speak … with all authority. God’s man must be authoritative. Jesus was (Mt 7:29). The scribes weren’t! [1]



[1]KJV Bible commentary. 1997, c1994 (2522). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.







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