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"BACK TO DEMOCRACY FOR FIJI"
You are invited to share and pen your ideas, views or opinions that will facilitate/assist our country back to democracy. All positive and/or negative ideas and comments to steer us back to the road of democracy are welcome.
Whichever way one looks at our current situation back home, democracy has been completely raped. The rape of democracy in Fiji is a virtual degradation of the populus of Fiji. Their human rights are being deprived:
1. the right to decide their government;
2. who they want to represent them;
3. their right to free assembly;
4. free protest;
5. free to organise into groups so that they can talk about what is pertinent to their daily lives;
6. protest on issues they do not agree with....with no fear of intimidation from anybody.
With this military regime in place, the concept of freedom per the Constitution is a total myth!
And, we, the people of Fiji need to come together and be vehement about our total disagreement with the military regime. So give us liberty or death! The reality of the issue is that democracy in Fiji has been raped...from top to bottom...left to right....inside and out and vice versa!
Here we have a military regime that talks about freedom to the people and yet the very same military regime randomly arrest people, torture them, inflict unnecessary harrassment and emotional stress to those that seem a threat to them. The military regime talks about racial unity.......the communal concept of togetherness and yet Fiji is far more racially divided today than it ever was.
The so-called advisors, viz-a-viz, John Samy, these are rejects from their adopted countries and yet they are being rewarded with exuberant amount(s) of money by these rogue military regime who have no idea what they are doing. Lying to the international community does not augur well with this interim government and yet the interim Prime Minister continuously talks with a forked tongue when addressing international issues. The ministers talk about internal securities as if Fiji is going to be invaded.
All around it is clearly seen that the economy is in tatters and the Constitution is just a useless piece of paper. The rule of law is as what the military regime wants it to be.
The above are just some of my views (from a pro-democracy viewpoint). But, do not let that deter you from penning your comments if you share otherwise.
So, let us come together and voice our views/comments, whether they be for or against the military regime and have a very healthy discussion here so that in the end we can factually understand what our role is, what we need to do and how we can come up with ideas to help restore democracy back in our beloved Fiji!
Please feel free to write what you like or dislike about the military regime. Be sincere and honest about your thoughts, without getting personal or spiteful.
Kindly note, this "topic" will expire as soon as we have an election.
Whichever way one looks at our current situation back home, democracy has been completely raped. The rape of democracy in Fiji is a virtual degradation of the populus of Fiji. Their human rights are being deprived:
1. the right to decide their government;
2. who they want to represent them;
3. their right to free assembly;
4. free protest;
5. free to organise into groups so that they can talk about what is pertinent to their daily lives;
6. protest on issues they do not agree with....with no fear of intimidation from anybody.
With this military regime in place, the concept of freedom per the Constitution is a total myth!
And, we, the people of Fiji need to come together and be vehement about our total disagreement with the military regime. So give us liberty or death! The reality of the issue is that democracy in Fiji has been raped...from top to bottom...left to right....inside and out and vice versa!
Here we have a military regime that talks about freedom to the people and yet the very same military regime randomly arrest people, torture them, inflict unnecessary harrassment and emotional stress to those that seem a threat to them. The military regime talks about racial unity.......the communal concept of togetherness and yet Fiji is far more racially divided today than it ever was.
The so-called advisors, viz-a-viz, John Samy, these are rejects from their adopted countries and yet they are being rewarded with exuberant amount(s) of money by these rogue military regime who have no idea what they are doing. Lying to the international community does not augur well with this interim government and yet the interim Prime Minister continuously talks with a forked tongue when addressing international issues. The ministers talk about internal securities as if Fiji is going to be invaded.
All around it is clearly seen that the economy is in tatters and the Constitution is just a useless piece of paper. The rule of law is as what the military regime wants it to be.
The above are just some of my views (from a pro-democracy viewpoint). But, do not let that deter you from penning your comments if you share otherwise.
So, let us come together and voice our views/comments, whether they be for or against the military regime and have a very healthy discussion here so that in the end we can factually understand what our role is, what we need to do and how we can come up with ideas to help restore democracy back in our beloved Fiji!
Please feel free to write what you like or dislike about the military regime. Be sincere and honest about your thoughts, without getting personal or spiteful.
Kindly note, this "topic" will expire as soon as we have an election.
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Permalink Reply by Loruama Tawawili on -
Thank you Warden Narsey!
December 2, 2009
Thank you Wadan for clearing things up a bit.
Few points:
Bainimarama and the idiots in green that obey his command in Delainabua are terrorists.
(Terrorists : because they have hijacked a country ; hijacked a govt which was voted in by it’s people and then force down their evil decrees upon us.)
No country in the world should tolerate any form of terrorism.
- What really pisses me off is CHOGM and UN and EU all come around here and want to dialogue with these piece of shit.
HELLO !!! No negotiation with terrorist please.
No talking!
Just get rid off all Fiji soldiers from UN service.
Stop all these bullshit.
- Also I’ve had enough of Fijians ( Iam a full blooded indeginous Fijian) who cow-tow to these people calling them “Honouroble” this and “honouroble ” that.
WTF, what honorable thing have they done?
They have raped the country; raped the chiefs ; now raping the sugarcane farmers.
For what?
These people are liars and are thieves.
There is nothing honorable about them at all.
They are evil and corrupt.
-So CHOGM, UN , EU you guys should stop deluding yourselves and put an immediate stop, right now to the plunder carried out by this idiot, Bainimarama.
- To what depth are you going to allow this country to descend to?
Do you really want refugees from Fiji getting on the boat and drift off to NZ or Australia?
- How pathetic is Kevin Barr? Hasn’t he seen the increase in number of children dropping out of school under Bainimarama’s reign.(Free school bus ain’t gonna stop it but employment for mum and dad might.)
Message for you Kevin:
As long as these idiots keep running the country there will be more money spent on this dumbed-down military then on Education and Social welfare.
What is the miltary for, Father Kevin?
Is it for terrorising its citizens?
What will you say to God when you face Him on the judgement day?
Maybe you are in your priveledged position for such a time as this.(Esther 4:14).
senirosi
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Permalink Reply by Suliasi Daunitutu on -
Mike,
A general question, is this procedure normal in the processof drawing up a new constitution ? I mean there will be close to $2million spent on people to come and "express their interest" Every dialogue table they have set before always had one rule - and that is Bainimarama will set the pace of the discussion and othes are not allowed to ask questions or bring their own ideas to the dialogue table.
They are now looking offshore for chairpersons for the forum means they have no idea what they want from who they want to control the "discussion" - if that is the right word.
One thing is clear though, they have a little over three years to look for people, and that means funding for the so called search.....more money in someone's pocket. I suppose Brij Lal will not be offering his service as the last one he drew up was flung through the window.
This is just another excuse to spend more money and put a reason to it, if Khaiyum is such an expert on law for the contemporary Fiji that he announced, why can't he put his hand up with his inexperienced followers including his Illegal CJ and control that meeting.
It will work out well for them as there will be no opposition to the framework they will construct for the over preached reforms.
Dr. Samisoni, Dr. Narsey. Dr. Brij Lal, Dr. John Frankel will be some from the anticipating academia cell who will be eager to see where all this is going.
I would like to hear anyone's thought of how this process that is taking place on Dec 14 is relevant to the draft constitution.
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Permalink Reply by tiko on -
Dou bula tale...sa qai raica sara tu ga qo na vakamumuri ni cakava tiko e so qo vei iratou na vesu mona tiko qoka o Suliasi,Mike kei na so tale....sega ni tautauvata kei na ka e ra cakava tu na vei matanitu mai liu baleta ....CONSTITUTION HAVE BEEN ABOLISHED.....ya na lawa ni vanua sa mai bokoci.......vakaruataka tale sa mai boko na yavu ni vakavulewa......dua na kena vakadewa va koto qo...the basic principles of a nation,state,that determines the powers and duties of the government and gurantee certain rights to the people...ya na balebale ni constitution koya sa mai bokoci....qai tukuna vei Te kei Suli me rau raica e na nodrau dictionary ni lawa....ya na vuni vakatatabu.Me oti mada na kena volai na vei lawa kei na degree qoka.....sa na qai dolavi tale na soli vakanananu..sa tukuna vakavicasagavulu....kevaka ni nanumi viti kei na kena kawa tamata.....waraka me volai oti mada na veika sa mai bokoci qoka...sa qai soli tale na macawa me nomuni.......sa nuitaka ni sa matata...Ni Moce.
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Permalink Reply by tiko on
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Alex wilika mada vaka vinaka na ka e volai toka qori e cake....wilika vakarua vakatolu me rawa ni kasa i cake.....propaganda ga dou vakamuria tiko i loma ni forum qoka,sa kila nai talanoa ni koli nai kaidia...... toka ga mai na matanivale qai kodro toka mai e sega ni doudou me lako mai tuba e na vanua ni rarama...ya koya e caka tiko i loma qoka....tomitomi ga mai na vei tukutuku lulutu tu i vei saqata kei koya e ra vuka mai nai mawi kina i matau mai vesu tu kina na nomuni mona vakataki iko...tovolea mo vakadikeva vakamalua na ka e ratou biuta tu mai loma qo...o Suli..Mike...Te...Loruama...qai o raica na vesu mona e ratou cakava tiko....sa nuitaka ni sa matata.
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Permalink Reply by Tevita Korodrau on -
@tiko,
Au kerea mo raici ira na gone yalewa totoka ni Viti e USP,rogoca na ka era kaya tiko,era tagi tu era kaya stop rape... ia ko eddie e vakataki kemuni e kaya toka ena ruku ni taba.you girls look gorgeous. @tiko ya saraga na nomudrau mona lala, tukuni tu mai e dua na ka bibi va 'oya na kena i sau mai veikemudrau ....Drau vaka toka na drua kei Eddie ena nomudrau i vosavosa kei na nomudrau rai...well if that you, you guys are plainly sick.Your ressemblence is becoming obvious in two personality in one stupid brain with an empty heart.
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Permalink Reply by Eddie C.Koroitunalagi on -
Sa qai matata sara tu ga e ke na lasu levu ko vakalasutaki ira tu kina qori na noda...i'o au tukuna na vosa ya..you girls look gorgeous,na cava na kena i balebale vei kemuni ya.....kua ni via vaka lomavinaka taki ira na Gone ena nomu i vagi duka ko vaka saga tiko qori.
Me vaka au sa tukuna oti ,au na tukuna tale,na ka o vakasaga tiko qori ena vakacocowiriwiri tiko ga mai yasana qori,ena sega sara ni ni na dua na betena e noda Vanua...ko vakalusia wale tu ga na nomu gauna kei na nodra i yau na noda koya era bau lako yani me ra vaqara na bula torocake ena vanua levu o Amerika.
Na i tautau ni nomuni vosa e laurai ga kina na yalo ca kei na loma ca...sa kua mada na lasu tiko mai...me ra kua sara ni yalo wai o ira era via vakamuri iko tiko....ni moce ka kalougata tiko.
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Permalink Reply by STEE on -
Tiko, You need to bang your head a few times on the wall, so you can come to grips with reality. Do you need volunteers to assist you with that..? Come to think of it, you'd better do it yourself, lakolako dua vi kimamu lai bang taka yani, lai cerebu tale kina na vica na ka lalai e bau tawa toka kina.
Facts are staring you in the face, but just like your identical twin brother Eddie, you consistently refuse to acknowledge it, let alone, allow your greyish-black matter process it. You are both such a waste of time here. Is this the best they can do at Delainabua.? Kar..rrumbs..!
..propaganda ga dou vakamuria tiko i loma ni forum qoka,sa kila nai talanoa ni koli nai kaidia...... toka ga mai na matanivale qai kodro toka mai e sega ni doudou me lako mai tuba e na vanua ni rarama
Sa qai o taura rawa beka na i balebale ni propaganda? Where are you right now? Iko kodrokodro tu qori e tuba, ena vanua rarama? What we are doing here is called "blogging", dimwit..!
"..ya koya e caka tiko i loma qoka....tomitomi ga mai na vei tukutuku lulutu tu i vei saqata kei koya e ra vuka mai nai mawi kina i matau mai vesu tu kina na nomuni mona vakataki iko.."
Have you watched Bainimarama's interview here.? Do you think any of us can fake that silly face and that hilarious interview.? Vosa tiko vakasama tiko 'tiko'...tikotiko kina e dua na riva.... Ke vaka e laki vakatomiki mai na news, e cava tiko mada vei iko.? For heaven's sakes, this is cyberspace.. Opps..( another vocab for you, add it to propaganda..) We have been airing censored news from all media outlets in Fiji here, as well as news from all over the world...or haven't you noticed..? Ko sa lako tu beka ga mai mo mai kodrokodro ka vakalelewa tu. Sa qai vakaloloma ka toro sobu dina noda matanitu, ni ko drau kena gusu ni vosa tu mai na drua i valu ( you and Eddie).... Vosota Bro, but that's the truth..
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Permalink Reply by tiko on
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Stee na loma ni Forum sega ni vinakati na tamata yalo kaukauwa o via kauti tiko mai qori yalomalumalu tamana kua qori....tovolea mada mo tavulaka na qavokavoka qori vana dua na vatu dina ke o sa rawata qai tukuna mai...e kemudrau.....Kila niu sa vakadewataka yani vaka dua beka na drau...SEGA NI KENA GAUNA QOKA NA KA DOU CAKAVA TIKO QORI E SEGA NI VUKEA NA MATANITU DOU SA NA QAI VAKADREDRETAKA GA VAKALEVU NA TOSO...VOSA TIKO VAKASAMATAKA TIKO NA KO NI CAKAVA TIKO QO.....YA NA PROPAGANDA KOYA E TUKUNI VAKAVICASAGAVULU TIKO YANI YOU ARE HARMING THE COUNTRY YOU ARE NOT HELPING....SEGA NI MACALA ME VAKADEWATAKI YANI VAKAIDIA KO NA QAI KILA....DOU SEGA NI RAWA NI WARAKA ME OTI MADA NA KENA VOLAI TIKO NAI VEIKA E SA MAI BOKOCI...VAKAYACORI NA VEIDIGIDIGI DOU NA QAI RAWA NI VOSA.......QOKA ME LAKO VEI MIKE IKO SE TADRA TIKO ME SOLI TALE VAKACAVA NA KAUKAUWA NI SA BOKO SA TOSO NA WAQA....AUWEEEEE............
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Permalink Reply by Mike on -
Tiko,
Raica mada na vanua o yavu taka tiko kina na nomu veiba, o cei e solia vei koya na kaukauwa me bokoca na yavu ni vakavulewa? Veitalia se veimataqali lawa cava tale e via mai bulia e tekivu mai na nona taura vakaukauwa na matanitu....ni kua ni guilecava na kena i totogi!!!
Tarogo iko mada se cava e cakava kina? Ni se bera ni o mai kodro tiko vaka na koli ni kaiviti....kodro tu ga ena levu ni lala ni kete kei na veivakarerei me kena kece na benu....bau vakasamataka na veika o via mai kaya. Sega ni rawa ni o yavutaka na nomu veiba ena lasu kei na basuki ni lawa. Na veilawa kei na decree macawa o mai saki taka tiko qori e volai tu ena dela ni butako kei na tauri vakailoa ni matanitu. Au sa tukuna oti vei iko, sa rauta na vakamumuri tu ga vakamataboko, ni bau dolava na nomuni vakasama...
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Permalink Reply by Iceman on -
Tiko, even if the 1997 constitution is abolished , it can still be re-activated..Bainimarama has his reasons for abolishing it, but by the eyes of every single citizen of Fiji and the world at large, this was done because Appeals Court found the Coup illegal..meaning all activities undertaken by the Military Regime from December 2006 onwards were illegal....GOT THAT ????...Na cava so na kena leqa vei kemudou mo dou accept taka mada ka process taka mada vakamalua e na nomudou mona na dina qo..It is a fact ... All these illegal decrees will be challenged again a court of law when a constitutional government is in place...If that happens, I hope you guys have enough dough to compensate people who had sufferered monetarily or otherwise because of Banimarama's ignorance...
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Permalink Reply by Loruama Tawawili on
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Tiko, as you have mentioned :The Constitution Has Been Abrogated" (Abolished). We all know that but let us look back to how it was taken out (for ease of reference) because that will put a lot of light to the meaning of its abrogation and remifications to the people who abrogated it.
The Independant Appeals court had ruled that the coup by Bainimarama, and the following govt.that Bainimarama had intalled and all appointments to the same was illegal.Now tiko that alone takes all your arguments for defence of the Abrogation out.Right after the Abrogation tiko if you had forgotten that the illegal govt re instated all laws of Fiji.You got that tiko?All the laws were re instated and that means the rulling of the appeals Court stands and everything that is done by the illegal regime, govt or wehat ever you want to call it tiko is illegal.You don't need a law degree to understand that tiko, not even the law dictionary because that is logic.So you see tiko no matter what happens in Fiji when and if change really happens Bainimarama and everyone involved with him will stand trial for treason and one of the charges against them will be the ABROGATION OF THE CONSTITUTION that you are now talking about.Isn't it strange that your agument for the abrogation will be used against Bainimarama in a court of law and he will have to spend the rest of his natural life in Prison? That is a very tough way to live a life tiko, waiting for the day when you will have to move to prison for the rest of your life as Bainimarama is contemplating every day now.You tiko will make a very good witness for the Prosecution, so keep it up my friend.
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Permalink Reply by tiko on
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Don't look back my friend....de qai o Durumasima sa toso tiko na waqa qoka kevaka dou na rai tikoga i muri ......dou na qai bera biu tu mai.....vodo mai dau tukuna ga o Butadroka...TIKI SE WARAI NA QAI QO E NA QAI GA......Na trial se cava tale o tukuna tiko mai qori Loruama e na qai muri.... me liu mada na nodra tiko vinaka na kawa kei viti e na veisiga ni mataka....koya e leqa qori ni dou laki leqataka sara tiko nai tinitini...dou raica mada na ka e da sa lakova tiko yani qoka....kena sagai me dua na viti vinaka e na veisiga ni mataka......DOU VOSOTA SA NA TUKUNI GA YANI VAKADODONU...WAQA QOKA SA VINAKATI GA KINA NA TAMATA DAU VOSOTA..
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